All bottoms are pre-1935.
Easy to date origin at prior to 1935, WE parted from Gray in 1934. Cloth cord, old W.E. transmitter and rec units. Includes older cast coin gauge at top. 95% old.
8-with chrome bottoms will have painted black tops. A number of these will also have the backboards dating back to the early teens. The tops will be post-1934 but likely pre-1948 or 57 (not sure when the shallower socket began) Gray AE transmitter holes.
4 of these will have 1934-40 W.E. steel tops having the original mounting holes for the 1925 oval transmitter mount (offered in W.E. & Grabar catalogs till early 50s).
Two old 1920s style Western Electric
“Gray-Western”) payphones available approximately
late Feb. 2011. Both will have
cast iron 2-boss backboard manufactured
between 1916-20s. These wil use the old
wood terminal strips as from the teens
into the 30s or/and 40s by Gray & used in
AEs. The bottom housings are obviously
1918-34. Days or/and weeks of research
would be required to determine greater accuracy in dating. Both have the
1914-23 flat doors. The 1454/3 lead coin channels likely used inside the
top housings will be of the type shown in Gray’s 1934 catalog and seen in
AEs until 1972. The fronts will have had the originally driiled holes for the
transmitter, however, the chrome one has also the hole, for the direction
card base. See book at top of page for verifications.
1) As with many 1911-72s. This one was chrome plated and is very attractive.
The switchhook is an old (1909-20s) nickel-plated switchhook fastened to a
1930s-60s payphone switchhook end. Even has a chromed 1914-1923 flat
door. The top housing shows it to be 1934-39 steel.
2) All black. Cast top housing is 1911-19.